You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.
ABRAHAM LINCOLN.
That is why i hate communists
My reply:
You can help the starving ones by giving the food that the rich ones certainly would throw away, you can strengthen the weak by punishing the bullies,you can lift the wage earner up by creating a limit in, what the 'WAGE PAYER' puts in his pocket,
{{You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred }} << this point has no connection with COMMUNISM... Has LINCON not studied 'communist manifesto'??
{{You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence}} WT... who needs character or courage .. LINCON'S defn of democracy" government from the people, for the people & off the people" COMMUNISM guarantees this bro. Too much of independence gives birth to anarchists!!
IF EVERYBODY ARE EQUAL, THERE IS NO FORM OF DISCRIMINATION AT ALL, CITIZENS ARE GETTING TO EAT ENOUGH, PEOPLE HELP PEOPLE then what else do we need??
---- COMRED ADWAIT BARAL----
This is why I love COMMUNISM!
ABRAHAM LINCOLN.
That is why i hate communists
My reply:
You can help the starving ones by giving the food that the rich ones certainly would throw away, you can strengthen the weak by punishing the bullies,you can lift the wage earner up by creating a limit in, what the 'WAGE PAYER' puts in his pocket,
{{You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred }} << this point has no connection with COMMUNISM... Has LINCON not studied 'communist manifesto'??
{{You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence}} WT... who needs character or courage .. LINCON'S defn of democracy" government from the people, for the people & off the people" COMMUNISM guarantees this bro. Too much of independence gives birth to anarchists!!
IF EVERYBODY ARE EQUAL, THERE IS NO FORM OF DISCRIMINATION AT ALL, CITIZENS ARE GETTING TO EAT ENOUGH, PEOPLE HELP PEOPLE then what else do we need??
---- COMRED ADWAIT BARAL----
This is why I love COMMUNISM!
its not about hate or love regarding communism, but is it possible for everyone to have same ideology,same thoughts?
ReplyDeletewhat about respect for difference in ideology if u mention clearly that there shouldn't be independence?
What I say is there shouldn't be too much freedom and independence. Mind it 'NOT TOO MUCH FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE' not 'NO FREEDOM OR INDEPENDENCE AT ALL'!
Delete1. Lincon also has not used "too" it was you who added it.
Delete2. i've not got the answer to my first question.
I've never told LINCON has told 'TOO MUCH INDEPENDENCE..' It was my own thought.
DeleteAlso communism also supports killing of people or better off disposing the people who are weak, disabled or useless who cannot be further use to the country......Removing various weak people from the circle of life just to ensure that there are strong hands to work for the country and to remove the tension of feeding the weak and disabled so that the country might prosper....Is this humanity???? I question, is this sane and the path of good...Only to prosper and to make all equal is this the suitable way to go....To strip the right of people to live...Also more communism strikes at the people right for independence and freedom...It also bans people from doing there own good for the sake of the community.....As Lincoln has said "You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong." How can this be??? You see if you want the weak to be strong...make them strong...teach them how to be strong...If you weaken the strong how can you ensure the weak to be strong...If there are no strong ones how can you protect the weak and it if no strong ones are there how can the weak be strong???...For example, let us consider a situation...a man who is unemployed is trying to get a job in a good company...Here the owner of the company is economically strong but the unemployed man i economically weak...Now going through the principles of communism one has to weaken the economy of the owner i.e. to strip him of his money and status and give that to the man and make them both come to the same level of economical strength but if this happens how can you ensure the future economic strength of both the persons...But if the principle of communism is not applied of that matter and simply the man gets the job, it is ensured that the man will have a good economic background...Later on in his life he could also go on to achieve something that the proprietor has achieved...Here the strong help the weak, the rich help the poor to make them strong...So that every body becomes strong...So you see one does not have to weaken the strong to strengthen the poor instead strong can help the poor to be strong...So you see if you want equality, it can be achieved by not attacking at the freedom and independence of the people as all the people have the right of free will and independence which in my point to view is not provided by communism.
DeleteShary, what you said in the beginning is not included in the principles of communism rather it was a theory of a communist dictator, I have never said that all communists are good people. You can't tell that communism supports killing of 'as you said: disabled people'. Rather I want you know that CPN UML a communist party of Nepal was the party that introduced allowance to the old aged people. In addition the biggest party of Nepal 'UCPN M' gave its X-militants who became physically disabled special compensations.
DeleteI hope you clearly know that 'Nazi' is not a communist party. What you have said at the beginning was practiced by them.
And 'making weak strong by weakening the strong' is bring both to the same level, not making poor rich and making rich poor.
I was not talking about hte "Nazi"...I was talking about the mass murder that happened in China during the Maoist era there..see this man
Deletehttp://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/maos-
great-leap-forward-killed-45-million-in-four-years-2081630.html
By the way, I am not completely against communism....but seeing the history behind it and it's ideals are not my type....I do not completely detest communism but I detest their ways of acquiring peace by destroying other people's or people's private peace and fortune.
Shray, the thing that happened in China is 'CULTURAL REVOLUTION' and I agree that people lost their life then; but those people who died were not killed for the purposes which you've mentioned in your earlier comment. People were killed to establish strong base of communism in China. And for your information the people's government of China itself also has regarded 'CULTURAL REVOLUTION' as a negative phenomena in Chinese history. What I believe is, if cultural revolution hadn't taken place back then, then Comrades like Lei Shaqui wouldn't have come to power and made China one of the greatest economies of the world.
DeleteAnd about 'Private fortune and peace....' thingy I have nothing to say but LOL!
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ReplyDeletevai let's talk about john lenon's IMAGINE (if not world but a country, our country) .... everything fucks here ... lets try to be human and make atleast a human my boy.
ReplyDelete'Being Human' is a lot more complicated task than living your normal life daju. So I'd rather be a COMMUNIST than a HUMAN.
DeleteLOL!